“Free” health care

Canada continues its long running demonstration that health care is not the same as health insurance. That ceding control of your health care based on promises from government health ‘insurers’ is a sucker’s move.

It’s been awhile since I mentioned Canada’s health ‘care’ system as a cautionary tale, but with the US Democrat hegemony piling more money into Obamacare with the Inflation Resurgence Reduction Act, you might be interested in what awaits us if the Dem’s universal health care dreams continue.

July 22nd, 2022
As Canada’s health system burns, Trudeau and the provinces debate the firehose
A public health-care system that was already straining before the pandemic is now visibly coming apart.

Aug 9, 2022
Healthcare costs for average Canadian family to hit $16,000 this year

A typical Canadian family of four will pay about $15,847 for public healthcare insurance this year, according to a study done by the Fraser Institute.

“Canadians pay a substantial amount of money for healthcare through a variety of taxes, even if we don’t pay directly for medical services,” said Fraser Institute director of health policy studies and study co-author Bacchus Barua in a Tuesday statement.

GOLDSTEIN: Canadian medicare — high costs, long waits, mediocre outcomes

Long before the pandemic hit, the myth of “free” Canadian health care gave us one of the most expensive health-care systems, with some of the longest medical wait times in the developed world, with mediocre outcomes judged by international standards.

Speaking of pandemic: Canada maintains the most draconian conglomeration of CCP virus mandates anywhere outside of China or North Korea. You can look it up. The government can do this because they can say your health insurance doesn’t apply to your health care if you don’t do what you are told.

Some looking it up examples: Make sure you find some info about Tamara Lich.

Artur Pawlowski is another example of free speech suppression. The Powlowski charges have been overturned.

Tamara Lich is still a political prisoner.


What We Call National Health Care or Single-Payer Is a Crime Against Humanity

Wait times are rationing. The payer just says “nay” to timely treatment. The Other Club has been writing about wait times in Canada’s single-payer medical system since 2005. Click the tag below.

Elizabeth Warren’s plan would be worse than Canada’s.
The math for Warren’s health-care plan adds up if you accept its ludicrous premise

Rationale to ration

Medical Welfare Programs Look To Price Another Year Of Life

Medicaid and other medical welfare entitlement programs have created expectations that are bigger than the resources available to meet them. As a result, some welfare bureaucracies are looking to ration expensive drugs through a controversial method designed to put a price on the value of a human life.

If a beneficiary of a social welfare program needs a particular drug whose price exceeds a predetermined value of a “quality-adjusted life year” for the individual, under this method, that person would not get the drug. It is already in use in Great Britain’s single-payer health care system and in other nations. Some in the U.S. think it should be used here, too.

When the government pays for something, it gives bureaucrats a taxpayer-based rationale to refuse to pay for it.

See the Green New Deal fantasy: It’s a list of things, including electricity, gasoline, home heating, land use, product design, hourly wages, preferred occupation, food choice, and, yes, health care; all of which will be rationed or regulated. Why? In order to implement their view of “social, economic, racial, regional and gender-based justice and equality

Is it any wonder GND proponents support “some are more equal than others” thugs like Venezuela’s Maduro and Cuba’s Castro?

Extremism and Health Care

Extremism at AT&T

AT&T will take $1B non-cash charge for health care

AT&T Inc. will take a $1 billion non-cash accounting charge in the first quarter because of the health care overhaul and may cut benefits it offers to current and retired workers.

… AK Steel Corp., Caterpillar Inc., Deere & Co. and Valero Energy announced similar accounting charges, saying the health care law that President Barack Obama signed Tuesday will raise their expenses. … 3M Co. said it will also take a charge of $85 million to $90 million.

All five are smaller than AT&T, and their combined charges are less than half of the $1 billion that AT&T is planning. The $1 billion is a third of AT&T’s most recent quarterly earnings. In the fourth quarter of 2009, the company earned $3 billion on revenue of $30.9 billion.

… the health care overhaul will require them to start paying taxes next year on a subsidy they receive for retiree drug coverage…

AT&T also said Friday that it is looking into changing the health care benefits it offers because of the new law. Analysts say retirees could lose the prescription drug coverage provided by their former employers as a result of the overhaul.

Wonder if Government Motors is getting an exemption? Benefits costs are what got them into trouble in the first place.

Extreme promises.

Claire McCaskill: Hey, maybe we “overpromised” on ObamaCare

As for her claim that the GOP is running around screaming that the sky is falling, well, yes: “The sky is falling” means that we’re now en route to single-payer health care, with a detour to a public option that’ll be passed once enough insurance companies have gone bust because they can’t cope financially with O-Care.

Extreme graft. Extreme Hypocrisy.

After health care vote, Stupak 11 request billions in earmarks

A day after Rep. Bart Stupak, D-Mich., and ten other House members compromised on their pro-life position to deliver the necessary yes-votes to pass health care reform, the “Stupak 11” released their fiscal year 2011 earmark requests, which total more than $4.7 billion–an average of $429 million worth of earmark requests for each lawmaker.

Extremism in the UK. The future under Obamacare?

Hospital wards to shut in secret NHS cuts

Tens of thousands of NHS workers would be sacked, hospital units closed and patients denied treatments under secret plans for £20 billion of health cuts.

The sick would be urged to stay at home and email doctors rather than visit surgeries, while procedures such as hip replacements could be scrapped.

The plans have emerged as health chiefs draw up emergency budgets that cast doubt on pledges by Gordon Brown to protect “front line services” in the NHS.

…and there already seems to be an epidemic water shortage in UK Hospitals.

Neglected by ‘lazy’ nurses, man, 22, dying of thirst rang the police to beg for water

He died of thirst: NHS accused by widow over care

…and a shortage of resources in general.

Up to 1,200 needless deaths, patients abused, staff bullied to meet targets… yet a secret inquiry into failing hospital says no one’s to blame

70 deaths on ward of shame: Patients neglected by lazy nurses in a filthy, blood-spattered casualty unit, says damning report

Extreme ethics.

Rep. Patrick Kennedy: Federal Funding of Abortion Is ‘Not a Question of Morality’

Extreme ignorance.

Dems likely didn’t read the bill before passing and signing it

Obamacare supporters should celebrate while they still don’t know what’s in the bill.

Canada Health care retrospective

The Other Club has written extensively about health care in Canada (see below). So much in fact, that the story earlier this month about Newfoundland Premier (Governor) Danny Williams coming to the United States for heart surgery seemed like same old, same old.

The comparable story, from a US perspective, might be that the Governor of Mississippi went to India for heart surgery.

Premier Williams came here for a heart operation he could not get in Newfoundland. We don’t know if he could have had the operation somewhere else in Canada. Probably he could, but we do know he chose not to.

In any case, he’s been attacked in Canada for this choice. You can see where it might be embarrassing to a culture heavily dependent upon their health care system for a sense of moral superiority.

Williams’ defense? “I did not sign away my right to get the best possible health care for myself when I entered politics.” It’s “my heart, my choice and my health.” Hear, hear.

This seems to be a story worth noting as President Obama unveils his new plan to destroy Premier Williams’ future health care choices. Without the US, where would he have gone?

IAC, thanks to Jason Gillman for pointing this press release out at Americans for Limited Government.

Following are most of the posts from TOC on the topic of Canadian health care, which has been held up to us as a goal. I put them together because TOC has always contended we can learn something from Canada, and most of these posts depend upon Canadian sources.

Monday, April 04, 2005
Canadian Health Care. You’ll Get Old Just Waiting.

Thursday, June 16, 2005
45 Million Myths

Thursday, June 30, 2005
Medicine Cabinet Minister

Monday, July 11, 2005
Brave New World meets Animal Farm

Thursday, July 14, 2005
You don’t always get what you pay for

Thursday, August 11, 2005
Canada: 3 Examples, 1 Point

Monday, August 15, 2005
Pollyanna Preposterous?

Thursday, August 18, 2005
Ob-Gyns with 10 Month Waiting Lists

Saturday, April 22, 2006
Universal Health Care Update

Wednesday, April 26, 2006
The cost of free health care

Friday, May 05, 2006
Free health care

Wednesday, May 17, 2006
Socialist health care

Wednesday, November 22, 2006
Previewing Hillarycare

Friday, December 15, 2006
Socialized health care choices

Saturday, December 23, 2006
Lessons from Canada

Tuesday, January 23, 2007
…every other advanced country

Thursday, March 15, 2007
Waiting for Trudot

Thursday, August 09, 2007
SCHIP of Fools

Sunday, August 19, 2007
Human gestation period surprises Canadian health administrators

Tuesday, November 27, 2007
Support the system. Game the system. It’s all OK, eh?

Monday, January 21, 2008
Andragogy Canada

Wednesday, May 07, 2008
Obama; Needs time in Canadian Instructional League?

Sunday, June 29, 2008
Canada is telling us something

Sunday, August 10, 2008
Health care lotteries, a Canadian growth industry

Monday, August 25, 2008
Universal health care

Tuesday, January 20, 2009
Safety valve endangered

Thursday, June 04, 2009
Lessons from Canada???

Monday, June 22, 2009
Canada: health care rationing review

Tuesday, June 23, 2009
Canada: health care wait times

Sunday, June 28, 2009
Health care notes

Sunday, July 12, 2009
Canadians criticize Canadian health care wait times

Tuesday, July 28, 2009
Canadian analysis

Monday, August 03, 2009
Canadian counterpoint

“…intractable Canadian health-care problems”

Thursday, August 20, 2009
Message from the President of the Canadian Medical Association

Friday, August 21, 2009
Surgery panels

Friday, September 04, 2009
Reimbursement panels panel

Saturday, September 26, 2009
The View from Dromore

Tuesday, October 13, 2009

Friday, October 30, 2009
Canada Health Care – Recent News. And some from here, too.

Canada Health Care – Recent News. And some from here, too.

Except for 1 nod to The Wall Street Journal, please note that all sources are Canadian.

Canadians face 16-week wait for surgery: Report
Calgary Herald
October 29, 2009

Canadians looking to undergo surgery can expect to wait an average of 113 days in 2009, a slight improvement over last year, a national health-care survey has found.

The Fraser Institute’s annual report on hospital wait times found that the median wait-time for Canadians seeking surgical or other therapeutic treatment is 16.1 weeks in 2009, down from 2008’s 17.3 weeks.

…”In spite of large increases in health spending, Canadians are waiting 73 per cent longer for surgery than they did in 1993,” said Nadeem Esmail, author of the report and a director with the right-wing think-tank.

Province Wants to Sell Surgeries to Saskatchewan
October 29, 2009

People from Saskatchewan may soon be coming to British Columbia for surgery, if negotiations between the two provincial governments are successful.

B.C.’s health minister, Kevin Falcon, said selling surgeries will bring money into B.C.’s system and help British Columbians get care sooner. But New Democratic Party health critic, Adrian Dix, said the plan makes no sense when health authorities are already cancelling surgeries for British Columbians.

…The move comes while health authorities are cutting the number of surgeries they provide, said NDP critic Dix.

The Fraser Health Authority has said it will cut as many as 9,900 surgeries because of budget constraints and the Interior Health Authority has cut 428 orthopaedic surgeries before the end of the fiscal year, he said.

Across the province, there are 15,000 people waiting for orthopaedic surgery, Dix said. The figure is confirmed on the province’s waitlist website.

“They cancel 10,000 surgeries for us and they offer up those surgeries to people in Saskatchewan,” said Dix. “When you offer up spaces to people from other provinces, then those are spaces that could and should be taken by the people who paid for those hospitals, paid for those operating rooms, paid for that capacity, and that’s the people of British Columbia.”

Tommy Douglas: Not Dead Enough
October 29, 2009

There are 1,100 vaccination clinics open in Alberta today.

Manitoba opened to the general public yesterday. Pharmacists can give the vaccine.

And in Saskatchewan?

Nope. Allowing anyone even a sniff of vaccine outside of the Official Health Care System would be “two-tier” health care. So if you want a vaccination for H1N1, you have another two week wait before the vaccine is “released” to the general public. And in Saskatoon, they’re going to have everyone – which will include many who are incubating and infectious – congregate at a single site Prairieland Park) to receive it.

Declining Standards of Canadian Health Care
Canada Updates
October 25, 2009

Mountain-bike enthusiast Suzanne Aucoin had to fight more than her Stage IV colon cancer. Her doctor suggested Erbitux—a proven cancer drug that targets cancer cells exclusively, unlike conventional chemotherapies that more crudely kill all fast-growing cells in the body—and Aucoin went to a clinic to begin treatment.

But if Erbitux offered hope, Aucoin’s insurance didn’t: she received one inscrutable form letter after another, rejecting her claim for reimbursement. Yet another example of the callous hand of managed care, depriving someone of needed medical help, right? Guess again. Erbitux is standard treatment, covered by insurance companies—in the United States. Aucoin lives in Ontario, Canada.

Can there be the slightest doubt that government subsidy brings government control? If you are wavering on that question, you should read what the US government does with car companies, where, unlike health care, it said it does not want to be in the car business.

Politicians Butt In at Bailed-Out GM
The Wall Street Journal
October 30, 2009

Montana Rep. Denny Rehberg was no fan of the $58 billion federal rescue of General Motors Co., saying he worried taxpayer money would be wasted and the restructuring process would be vulnerable to “political pressure.” Now the lawmaker says it’s his “patriotic duty” to wade into GM’s affairs.

…Probably no company has been more on the receiving end of congressional attention than GM, whose widely scattered factories, suppliers and dealership network put it in touch with nearly every U.S. congressional district.

Ask yourself 2 questions.

  1. Given how the US government has maneuvered Medicare into bankruptcy, and given how the US government is currently handling the automobile manufacturing business: If you could, would you switch your health care services to Medicare just before $500 million dollars are cut from it?
  2. Will Congress accept exactly the same health care entitlements they want to force on us?

If you answered either of those questions “Yes,” you need medical attention immediately.

One indication of the level of nanny state control we’ve been paying our national legislators to develop for most of the year: The 1,990 page bill (H.R. 3962) will require nutritional labels on food dispensed from vending machines. Since you probably cannot see what’s printed, in 4 point type, on the package inside that vending machine:

In the case of an article of food sold from a vending machine that—

(I) does not permit a prospective purchaser to examine the Nutrition Facts Panel before purchasing the article or does not otherwise provide visible nutrition information at the point of purchase; and

(II) is operated by a person who is engaged in the business of owning or operating 20 or more vending machines, the vending machine operator shall provide a sign in close proximity to each article of food or the selection button that includes a clear and conspicuous statement disclosing the number of calories …

This is what Congress thinks of as health care reform. The number of calories for vending machine snacks have to be displayed, so before you select “Deep-fried Twinkies” or “Unsalted Chocolate-covered Bacon/Cheese Sausage/Reject Bits,” you’ll be able to compare caloric content.

Let me suggest that the only people interested in this information are people who would prefer to starve to death rather than eat from a vending machine. Well, they are also interested in what you eat from a vending machine, but isn’t that the whole point? All in all, though, this is small stuff. A half… no, a quarter-measure.

Consider that minor adaptations to vending machines would allow detecting your weight and height. Certain combinations of weight and height could be refused service for certain snacks. If you persist despite a recorded warning, you don’t get a snack and you don’t get a refund, that’s a “trying to game the system” fine.

A blood pressure cuff and blood sugar testing device could be installed in the snack delivery opening, and if you fail to meet a government determined ratio of these numbers you can’t pull your arm out until you drop the snack. You don’t get a refund, and the snack is donated to People for the Ethical Treatment of People for third world disposal. That’s a healthy living tax.

Finally, while we’re talking about whether your body is your property, can we at least recognize the threat posed to the pregnancy termination advocacy industry?

It was something that got into your body that caused that medical condition, wasn’t it? How it got in there can effect very different outcomes. To ensure choice at the earliest stages, and to avoid the necessity of FCC monitored wireless personal-implant electronic devices, the caloric content of a unit dose of semen alongside a warning of the risks of pregnancy must be tattooed on all male, um… biologic delivery systems.

We can probably persuade condom manufacturers to subsidize the tattooing. It’s a natural advertising opportunity for male enhancement.

Your tax dollars at work – against you

Here is a heartfelt plea from your federal government to itself. The government asks you, the employer, to assist in the internal petitioning. It’s as if the employees don’t recognize their status and cannot recognize they should avoid blatant political messages. Inmates. Asylum.

Dear Mr. President,

We strongly support your commitment to comprehensive health reform.

This is not a luxury. The continuing, sharp escalation of health care costs for families, businesses, and government is unsustainable. Reform is imperative.

We believe that health reform must be enacted this year.

Reform is needed to help America’s families struggling with rising costs and those who are losing their insurance. At the same time, real health reform is crucial to keeping American businesses competitive in the world economy and for the country’s long-term economic viability. As our country faces economic challenges, the time for reform is now.

We support health reform that follows these principles:

  • Protect families’ financial health
  • Assure affordable, quality health coverage for all Americans
  • Provide portability of coverage
  • Guarantee choice of doctors
  • Invest in prevention and wellness
  • Improve patient safety and quality of care
  • End barriers to coverage for people with pre-existing medical conditions
  • Reduce long-term growth of health costs for businesses and government

During these extraordinarily challenging times, we need to put aside past differences and address the health and economic crisis. Our shared interest must come before narrow interests so we can achieve a health system that is affordable and provides high quality for all Americans. We will support your budget with its reserve fund dedicated to achieving health care reform in a fiscally responsible manner. Each of us must be prepared to contribute to achieving this fundamental goal.

By signing this statement we affirm our commitment to work with you and our Congressional leaders to enact legislation this year which provides affordable, high quality coverage for all Americans.

Where did this come from?
“This is an official U.S. Government Web site managed by the U.S. Department of Health & Human Services“.

I think I will not sign the petition, even though they are keeping it on the up-and-up in the tradition of the Obama campaign’s online credit card verification and ACORN voter registration practices: Please check this box to indicate that you are at least 13 years of age. Unfortunately we cannot accept submissions from children under the age of 13.

Mickey Mouse and the Dallas Cowboys starting lineup are all over 13. So is John Galt, whose identity I used.