Mexican firepower II

Another Murder Linked to US Gunwalker Case

This really isn’t news if you have been following Gunwalker, and it isn’t fair to blame the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives for the murders of US Border Agent Brian Terry or Mario Gonzalez Rodriguez. The thugs who killed these men, and many other Americans and Mexicans, would have used other weapons – probably firearms smuggled across Mexico’s border with Guatemala – if BATFE had not sanctioned the weapons they did use. The brutal and violent evil bastard Mexican drug thugs probably would have preferred to commit the murders with full automatic AK-47s instead of the semi-automatic “variants” BATFE intentionally put into their hands.

The egregious part of this is not that people died. It is that BATFE, the Presidents of the United States and Mexico, and the US Secretary of State all claimed drug-fueled firearm violence in Mexico should be blamed on the Second Amendment of the Constitution of the United States. These sly and disingenuous evil bastards were clamoring for suppression of Americans’ civil rights based on false information they promulgated.

TOC has commented on this multiple times. Here are two of those posts.

There is not a better argument for abandoning the failed and costly “War on Drugs,” nor for disbanding BATFE. There is also an argument here for Mexican officials to increase their own southern border security rather than actively subverting ours.

Politics ain’t beanbag

Bringing a Bean Bag to a Gunfight

When Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry was murdered by drug smugglers in Arizona last December, Tom Tancredo revealed that Terry’s BORTAC unit (the Border Patrol’s equivalent of a SWAT team) were armed with bean-bag rounds in their weapons

Speaking for Janet Napolitano, officials at U. S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) would have us believe that Agent Terry chose, on his own, to fire beanbags at Mexican thugs armed with AK-47s. To believe this you must believe Terry, a former Marine, was incredibly stupid, stunningly naive or recklessly foolhardy; likely all three. It isn’t true. Beanbags are policy.

While agent Terry followed the CBP rules of beangagement he was murdered by Mexican thugs who obtained their weapons via the sponsorship of another Federal agency; the Bureau of Alcohol, Firearms, Tobacco and Explosives.

Agent: I was ordered to let U.S. guns into Mexico

An Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms senior agent assigned to the Phoenix office in 2010, [John] Dodson’s job is to stop gun trafficking across the border. Instead, he says he was ordered to sit by and watch it happen…

Surveillance video obtained by CBS News shows suspected drug cartel suppliers carrying boxes of weapons to their cars at a Phoenix gun shop. The long boxes shown in the video being loaded in were AK-47-type assault rifles.

So it turns out ATF not only allowed it – they videotaped it…

On Dec. 14, 2010, Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry was gunned down. Dodson got the bad news from a colleague…

Two assault rifles ATF had let go nearly a year before were found at Terry’s murder…

Dodson said they never did take down a drug cartels. However, he said thousands of Fast and Furious [ATF sponsored] weapons are still out there and will be claiming victims on both sides of the border for years to come.

BATFE tells us that 90% of weapons they are asked to trace by Mexican authorities originate in the United States. The President and the Secretary of State and Mexico’s Ambassador to the United States twist that into “90% of all weapons” seized by Mexican authorities originate in the US. I still want to know how many of the weapons BATFE traces were supplied under the protection of BATFE, and how many people have died as a result.

Mr. Finley Peter Dunne, a Chicago-based U.S. author in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, originated the phrase “Politics ain’t beanbag,” the entire quote is: “Politics ain’t beanbag: ’tis a man’s game, and women, children ‘n’ pro-hy-bitionists had best stay out of it.”

Border patrol officers should be able to stay out of politics, too, because as Mr. Dunne also wrote: “A lie with a purpose is one of the worst kind, and the most profitable.”

Update 2:28PM The Christian Science Monitor reports

ATF officials told the Center for Public Integrity that the ATF allowed a total of 1,998 weapons to pass from gun shops to straw buyers connected to the gun-running rings, with full understanding that those weapons could be used in the commission of crimes. Of those weapons, 797 were recovered by the ATF as a result of some kind of criminal investigation, including 195 inside Mexico.

It’s quite reasonable to assume that there are still 1200 of these BATFE specials in Mexico. I wonder how they’ll be counted if they’re submitted to BATFE for tracing. Probably the same way they counted the 195 they already got.

Keeping themselves employed

From the LA Times: Guns tracked by firearms bureau found at firefight scene

…federal law enforcement sources have confirmed that two guns, part of a series of purchases that were being monitored by authorities, were found at the scene of the firefight that killed a U.S. Border Patrol agent in southern Arizona.

TOC has commented on BATFE many times. The Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco Firearms and Explosives is complicit in the sale of firearms to Mexico. The illegal sale of firearms. BATFE is also responsible for tracing guns seized by Mexican authorities to find out if they originated in the US. Of course, Mexican authorities only submit guns they think originated in the US. They are correct 90% of the time.

The headline could easily, have said, “Guns supplied via firearms bureau found at firefight scene”

BATFE could save everyone a lot of trouble by just sending the serial numbers to the Mexicans in advance.


I wrote a letter to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives in April of 2009. My purpose was to find out if BATFE knew if any of the firearms seized from Mexican drug thugs had originated from government sources in the United States. I describe it here, but this is the central point:

Have any of these weapons been traced to aid provided to Mexico by the United States through official channels? That is, which, if any, of these firearms were legally imported by Mexico from United States law enforcement or military sources, or any other government departments or programs?

I assume that transfers from any programs officially sanctioned by the United States will have been precisely documented.

The word “legally” appears to have been overprecise, but more on that later. By June I received a non-response from BATFE, so I wrote again.

What are the various sources in the United States of those firearms submitted by Mexican authorities to the BATFE for tracing? That is, of the submitted firearms you have, or have had, in your possession – where in the US did they come from?

That letter received no response, and I contemplated a FOIA request. But that isn’t easy, and BATFE was highly likely to make it expensive. I never did it.

Then, 2 weeks ago, I find out BATFE didn’t want to talk about this question because BATFE is very likely a source of weapons purchased by Mexican drug gangsters. Whether BATFE sponsored illegal purchases represent a “legally” transferred weapon in the hands of a drug gang I leave to the courts. That seems to be precisely the question in the video here.

Now, some of those weapons have been detected in use. There is strong evidence that BATFE arranged the sale of hundreds of guns to Mexican drug gangs, and that some of those guns were used to kill a Border Patrol officer.

Since BATFE is being asked to explain this contretemps by a United States Senator, I doubt a FOIA will be necessary.

Nonetheless, I would like to know how many of the guns being counted as “origin United States” over the last several years were part of “origin US government.” The President of the United States, the Secretary of State of the United States, the President of Mexico and Mexico’s Ambassador to the United States, to name only the highest rank officials, have been telling us we need to suspend the 2nd Amendment to save the corrupt state of Mexico from American purchased firearms. They tell us strict gun control is the only answer.

On the evidence, and judging by the responsiveness, BATFE Control is a more obvious way to address this problem. That, and maybe extending 2nd Amendment rights to ordinary Mexicans.

BATFE hijinks

TOC has commented on the disingenuity of claims by the President and by the Secretary of State, that 90% of all weapons seized by Mexican authorities in Mexican drug war related busts originated in the United States.  If you don’t already know why that is a lie, read Mexican firepower from April, 2009.

That post also contains a letter I wrote to BATFE inquiring whether any of the guns seized in Mexico, and analyzed by BATFE – the source of POTUS and SECSTATE numbers – had been part of government to government sales. That is, did US government, at any level, sell guns to Mexican government, at any level, which subsequently turned out to be used by drug gangs. I was interested in this because the weapons seized were implied to be fully automatic by Our President and Our Secretary of State, among other US officials who oppose the civil rights protected by the 2nd Amendment. I was sure any such sales would have meticulous recording of serial numbers as a condition of sale, and that BATFE would have this information readily to hand.

Basically, I was wondering whether the governments of Mexico and the United States were responsible for any part of what they both claimed to be a reason to repeal the 2nd Amendment. This was especially interesting regarding automatic weapons, since US citizens are already prohibited from purchasing them. 

I did not receive a satisfactory response from BATFE. Noted here, BATFE camouflage, in June, 2009.

Now, I understand why. BATFE was interested in coerced public/private “partnerships” with Arizona firearm retailers. BATFE wanted semi-automatic weapons sold to people who were suspected not to be citizens.

H/T Of Arms and the Law