Following you will find a couple of snippets from a difficult and foreboding conversation. I haven’t figured out how to set an end time since Google changed that API, so they’ll keep going unless you stop them. I’ve included duration info for the bits I’m highlighting.
The whole thing is highly recommended. An hour and 45 minutes.
The title is inadequate. It’s about far more than the degeneration of Ivy League trust funds masquerading as institutions of higher learning.
Higher education, momentarily led by the Ivy League, does have big problems. Admittance criteria exemplify the political attack on meritocracy, the quality of education is in steep decline, the number of administrators is an obscene waste of resources, the treatment of adjunct professors is abominable greed, and – in collusion with the General Government – student debt makes unwary credentialists into wage slaves.
It is infuriating and ironic that civilizational rot should have started in the Education Departments of universities with mottos such as “Veritas” (Truth) “Dei sub numine viget” (Under God’s Power, She Flourishes), “Lux et Veritas” (Light and Truth), “In lumine Tuo videbimus lumen” (In Thy light shall we see light), and especially “I would found an institution where any person can find instruction in any study.”
VDH and JBP spend a quarter to a third of the conversation on higher ed (and there’s a commercial for Hillsdale College in there). But if it were just the Ivy League, Western Civilzation in general and the United States in particular would not be under assault by solipsistic identitarians.
One example, this clip is Peterson talking about the damage to our military from pronoun training, for example. About 2 minutes 20 seconds.
Second example. Hanson is not speaking of mere Ivy League institutions here, he’s speaking about almost all our institutions – public and private. I would quibble with his use of “the state”, because distrust of state institutions is part of everything they’d talked about. Were he editing it, I think he might substitute “cultural heritage,” or refer back to the responsibility of citizenship they touched on before. About 20 seconds.
“Once you lose confidence in these institutions, and once they’re no longer meritocratic, and once people’s primary allegiance is not any longer to the state everything we’ve talked about this morning … the end result is an implosion – very quickly.”
You should watch the whole thing. Just skip back to the beginning from one of those clips.
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My kids all went to college and within a few years of graduation had their school debt paid. (My wife and I committed @10K per child, per year x 4 years. One kid got an 8 year degree, we still only paid for 4.) Two kids became military officers, which covered the costs of education. One child was an RA in her dorm. One child did work study, lived in a fraternity and even became president of the frat. All of them received some degree of scholarship funding. All of them attained careers that pay well (Optometrist, Systems Engineer, Electrical Engineer). The worst thing was the rampant liberalism at the universities and the military. – Your kids do not need to go broke, nor do you. Look for smaller colleges with functional degrees. Don’t pay for crap degrees. (One of mine wanted to be a writer. I told her I would not pay for 4 years so they could say, ‘Do you want fries with that.’) Look for someone (military, a business) who is willing to help pay for a college degree.
I like that story. My son got his MBA courtesy of the Marine Corps. Runs his own business.
It could be stated that your son earned means to pay for his MBA by serving in the Marine Corps.